Consagrated bands actually :Bon Jovi,Aerosmith,Metallica...and now Europe?

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Leonardo
00venerdì 14 novembre 2003 05:03
hello eurofans :

those bands have benn working hard through the years, (there some others obviusly)and it is something that there isn't in EUROPE, the lebaronboys has worked hard during the 80's but then they didn't promoted following albums worlwide anymore. Why?.

Europe needs to consagrate at the same level of those bands, Europe has much more talent than those doesn't have.
what do you think?? Will they do it great this time?
MiaP
00venerdì 14 novembre 2003 15:47
Sorry that´s long now :/

....and I hope I understood you right. Am I right that English is not your motherlanguage too?


and it is something that there isn't in EUROPE, the lebaronboys has worked hard during the 80's but then they didn't promoted following albums worlwide anymore. Why?.



Can some guys write if they want they split on the top of their success - fact is that PIP sold very much lesser and the concerts this time have not been this much visited too but the reason of this is I guess more to search in the change of the music taste of the masses outside this time. Good "homemade" rockmusic got for years more a place in the background - as it seems to me, can be you got another sight of this - and now the market seems to change again. Bon Jovi came too back to their roots f.e. Recordfirms always promote thus where they get the utmost result so the promotion changed too. They care not about what a "view" like but what the most outside like and where they get the most money on the easiest way. Simple example: Our Dieter Bohlen here. A German producer who´s known I guess by mostly everyone. Why does such a man release a biography, write about the trueth backstage and talks (dirt) about persons on his way of life (success)? And what made him to this he is now? He made no personally style: he made music for masses and wrote at least what the mass outside wanted to listen and now to read: one way of money earning.
Europe made ever their own style and so this question is answered I guess.




Europe needs to consagrate at the same level of those bands, Europe has much more talent than those doesn't have.
what do you think?? Will they do it great this time?



Thus bands are still there and Europe made a break for over 10 years! I don´t think that it will be easy to them with this comeback. I think more it gets a stony way. Think about: How much are we really? Not how much are registered as a member of ESC or are known online - how much are there outside where they can count on that they buy their albums and listen their music and would ask for them at the recordstore or at the radio? How much ARE really there outside? That´s the question witch would interesst me belonging to this if I would be one of them because it is their existance to SELL their music. If there are to less it get´s a cold bath!
What made me think belonging to this was since the release of Kee´s new album: Why does an artist like Kee sell his album over his webside and gives it for 1 € more handsigned for everyone personally away? It´s absolut great to us what he did in this way but: what would happen if one like Mr. J. BonJovi would act in this way? Guy! His arm would be -if he would try it truely- in short time with a huge plaster around = caused on too much writingwork! No - I´m no Bon Jovi Fan although I think they are not bad, just for making clear what I want to say: How much are we really?
At least: I believe that it is possible again that they will have a worldwide success. For me they have something special and I would be wrong here if it would not be in this way. On the other hand I tell you if they got not a second "Final Countdown" in their backhand for the new release next year it will get a hard way to the top again because others are good too, others produced during their break one after the next album new and you know too in witch way it is with new brooms .........
How much mags wrote 92 about the split although the guys say it´s a break - it is naturall that much fans outside are lost. Except of a "view" die hard fans who buys more than one compilation album of a band who splittet? And caused on such articles: how long does it take if you listen not again of them untill you forget about them? There was a discussion about popularity on Joeys last official side: most people remained TFC but if you said them Europe or Joey Tempest they asked you: Who´s that?

I cross my fingers to them.
"If you don´t believe on your chance you´ve got none" They´ve got one: they´ve got a bunch of truely fans here who stood and stand behind them all those years. I hope only we are enough for a new start.

Best regards
Mary
Rodrigo (Leo's brother)
00venerdì 14 novembre 2003 23:53
Europe ...a recognised band?

Hello mary and all fans :
No,we are from sudamerica mary, thanks for answering me, your english is a little confusing, but what my brother wanted to say (and I too)MAINLY that a band HAVE to do music that people want to listening,if people want to listen to another OUT OF THIS WORLD, Europe has to do another OUT OF...The most popular ,recognised and I think the best artist to hit this planet,the king MICHAEL JACKSON said once :!"it doesn't have sense make music people is not interested in", do you understand this?he was ruled by this words all his life and look, it's the artist that has sold more copies in the music's history.Did you know it ?.Prisoners doesn't exist here.if you say EUROPE you say TFC,Carrie,open your heart,etc.
Another thing is..the fans
Here people who are about 32 or more remember Europe as the best success in 80's!!! When I say them ,ya remember the final countdown?
they say : Hooo EUROPE!. HOW NOT TO REMEMBER?
if Europe back with powerful song like this, bear in your mind,they will have billions of fans,cause young people who I make them listen to Europe, they like it, (people who are 20, and I am 21)BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BE A FAN OF A BAND WHO NOBODY KNOWS !.
So I think this wonderful band has to continue working hard through the years to be at the level of Rollings, for example,loo at this band young people is indiferent to rolling stones, and I think the same, it has not much talent, not much spectacular voices,no emotive chorus,but again...they have worked along the decades..now are recognised as one of the best bands in the world",(Not for me ah?).
lebaronboys have ALL TO DO IT GREAT MEN,AND I HAVE NEVER EVER SEEN A SO SPECTACULAR BAND LIKE THIS!.



thanks.
Rodrigo.
Sonya
00sabato 15 novembre 2003 00:02
Europe...and out of time bands.
Hello :

Well,after all what was said, I am in the same opinion than Rodrigo and Mary too.
I would loke to add something,
Europe will be recognised when they decide their style, a band can not change its style everytime it release an album!!!
europe has at least two or three styles and have just five albums.I have never know about a band that had make this, and if it exist..."That band doesn't exist".
So i think that if Europe continue with any of its style along its album will possibly be recognised in society again and remain out of time like Queen, for example.

see you.Sonya.
Nicholas Novikov (noizze)
00giovedì 5 febbraio 2004 11:31
2 Sonya - reminds Queen? Pleeeeeease... No Queeen. Quenn was always a pop group with stupid "plastic-like" guitar sound.
May didn't ever was close to Kee...
Europe has a REAL HARD sound on PIP (ooohhh![SM=x237820]). This is rock group, not pop...
Actually, to the beginning of this post -
Bon Jovi didn't released any worthy albums since great 'these days' album...
Metallica? please [SM=x237836]. They are spent tooo many time with limpbizkit dumbers, so they became dubm limbizkit themselves...
No... ONLY EUROPE RULES.
They must choose their sound PERSONALLY.
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ps sorry for my English
BRYN MCGLOIN
00giovedì 5 febbraio 2004 20:19
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH QUEEN
THEY HAVE A BIG FAN BASE, and were quitet successful had plenty of top 10 hits and plenty of no.1's. listen to tracks like sheer heart attack, i want it all, tear it up, gimme the prize.
we are the champions is just a favourite sports song like the final countdown. bohemian rhapsody stayed at no.1 for 6 weeks, and was later in the film waynes world. they did a some movie soundtracks, with flash gordon and highlander. even our own joey tempest likes them his favourite album been news of the world.
and they started back in 1972 to 1991 respectively so 19 years come on now that some time.[SM=x237809]
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